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FEMA concentration camps

FEMA concentration camps exist in the mind of a particularly loopy bunch of conspiracy theorists who believe that mass internment facilities have been built across the continental United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), in preparation for a future declaration of martial law.




You know, my grandfather died in a FEMA concentration camp...
Though exact claims about the purpose and nature of the camps vary from one crank to another, a common theme is that they will be used to detain dissenting US citizens after the consolidation of the North American Union in preparation for the establishment of a one world government. The camps allegedly come complete with boxcars for moving people around and plastic coffins for burying them. (Why not just burn the corpses Nazi-style?)
FEMA, naturally, is the shadow government which will run the show after the puppet government dissolves through a series of executive orders issued by the President. The idea that FEMA could pull off such a masterstroke is surprisingly widespread, considering their massivedisplay of incompetence during Hurricane Katrina. For some reason, the theory's proponents don't express a lot of worry about the Centers for Disease Control, which actually does have the power to intern large numbers of citizens pretty much immediately as needed.
There are several videos purporting to show footage of the camps, as well as shots of ominous-looking fences and webpages listing locations of over 800 camps, allegedly all fully guarded and staffed full-time despite being completely empty.[1][2] In addition to the implausibility of such a massive conspiracy being kept totally silent,[3] the evidence is damaged by the fact that the videos and pictures actually depict everything from National Guard training centers to Amtrak repair stations to North Korean labor camps.[4]
The FEMA camp conspiracy theory has been alluded to by Republican leadership candidate Michele Bachmann, though she did not say FEMA.[5] Glenn Beck, who to his credit later backpedaled and hosted a debunking segment featuring a guest from Popular Mechanics, promoted the theory as well.[6] Still, the theory remains popular among the survivalist community and the militia movement, and there's no shortage of adherents on the Internet.
So far, the only flaw in this otherwise brilliantly executed conspiracy was the mistake of publicly advertising jobs to work at the camps.[7] It's always the small details the conspirators slip up on.
The idea that the US government is planning to intern masses of people has some history, and is not just limited to the far-right. In the 1980s, opponents of Ronald Reagan's Central America policy on the far-left thought that FEMA was planning a mass roundup of them just before the imminent U.S. invasion of Nicaragua. (See REX 84 below.) Barely skipping a beat, it became a theory on the right-wing black helicopter/militia circuit in the '90s, among Alex Jones followers and truthers in the 2000s, and today by the more insane opponents of the Obama administration.

[edit]H.R. 645

recent claim is that House Resolution 645 from 2009's 111th Congress authorizes the creation of FEMA concentration camps. There really is a H.R. 645[8], and a careful reading of the bill shows that they are making camps and that FEMA is involved. However, anyone with reading comprehension beyond the average third grader will notice that the bill is to authorize the creation of refugee camps for humanitarian assistance and temporary housing after disasters (and "other appropriate uses"), and that FEMA is only involved in the sense that the locations of the camps are set up along FEMA's districts. Furthermore, the camps for practicing responses to national disasters are with coordination between federal, state, and local authorities. The reason you don't have private access to the camps is that they're on military installations, which are generally not open to the public. Not scary.

[edit]Google Earth

Proponents of FEMA camps tend to take one of two perspectives when it comes to Google Earth. One side stated that they've found tons of concentration camps on Google Earth. If this is the case, there is a site in the External Links refuting all these claims[9]. The other side believes there are no FEMA camps on Google Earth, because Google is in league with the government to cover up their existence.

[edit]Real-life internment plans

[edit]ADEX Lists

During the run-up to World War II in the years 1939 to '41, the FBI did maintain lists of "subversive" people, collated from files on political activists and immigrants. These people were divided into three groups: "A" for those to be arrested immediately upon outbreak of war or other hostilities, "B" for those deemed less dangerous, and "C" for enemy sympathizers. The attorney general of the time, Francis Biddle, found out about the lists and deemed them "dangerous" and "illegal". J. Edgar Hoover, however, just covered up their existence and continued the program under another name, telling his agents to just not mention it.[10]

[edit]REX 84

REX 84 was a "scenario & drill" created under the Reagan administration by Oliver North and FEMA deputy director John Brinkerhoff. Throughout the Reagan administration, the black ops of the US military and intelligence agencies effectively ran wild, especially in Latin America, where Reagan's aggressive intervention many times verged on intentional genocide[11] by right-wing "death squads" withCIA backing.[12]. In this violent environment, the "scenario" described in REX 84 is rather disturbing. It called for the rounding up and preemptive detention of human rights & anti-war activists, as well as Latino immigrants.[13]
The ironic part about REX 84, which many wingnuts seem not to grasp, is that the program was targeted against civil rights, anti-war, labor, & other left-wing activists, as well as immigrants and minority communities, in support of hegemonic, capitalist, right-wing American business (see Allen Dulles). FEMA camps are not, as conspiracy theorists would have it, some grand plot against conservative American patriots; rather, the only administration to seriously consider interning dissidents was planning on doing so against the sorts of people that the American far-right despise the most (next to theFederal Government or NWO, that is).

[edit]Internment in the past

There has been one time in America's history when the government did send its own citizens to internment camps. During World War II, about 110,000–120,000 Japanese Americans were forcibly relocated from the West Coast to internment camps in the interior of the country, on the grounds that they would act as a fifth column against the American war effort. Privately, many white farmers on the West Coast also viewed it as a way to get rid of their Japanese competitors. This incident is often brought up by those who claim that the government has the will to do it again (occasionally claiming that some of the planned FEMA camps are renovated Japanese internment centers), neglecting to mention the fact that the backlash against internment very quickly sapped that very will.
The USA also deported many Native Americans to Oklahoma in the 19th century, the area having initially served as an "Indian Territory" before it was opened up to white settlement. Despite the atrocities done there, they weren't US citizens at the time.


A common tactic used as "proof" of FEMA camps is to quote mine bills that have the words "FEMA" and "camps" in the same paragraph, and zoom in to the point you can only see the quote-mined sentence.[14] This applies to all instances this happens, not just FEMA Camp bills: If they cite the bill, look up the bill, and read it yourself to see the context. If they don't cite it, then the bill either doesn't exist, or they don't want to be embarrassed by the quote-mined sentence when some sheeple comes in.[15]

[edit]See also

Si vous voulez cet article en français, il peut être trouvé à Camps de concentration de la FEMA.

[edit]External links


  1.  FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
  2.  The intrinsic implausibility of people simply being able to walk up to the sites of heavily-guarded camps that the "gummint" wants to keep secret, videotape them, walk away unmolested, and disseminate the videos without any consequences, is apparently not considered, even though it flatly contradicts the central premise of the conspiracy theories in question.
  3.  Even when FEMA actually did lock up Katrina survivors in a trailer park and refused to let them speak to the media, the local news did report on it, as did FAIR. [1]
  4.  Popular Mechanics – Debunking FEMA Camp Myths
  5.  Crooks ans Liars: Michelle Bachmann warns of politically correct re-education camps for young people
  6.  Video and transcript of Beck's show debunking FEMA camps.
  7.  "Why is National Guard recruiting for 'internment' cops?"WorldNutDaily
  8.  The full text of the bill can be found here.
  9.  Although that also means the site is a shill, so there you go.
  10.  [2]
  13.  [3]